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Post by Bluedramon on Jan 7, 2015 0:12:54 GMT -5
Remember that part where Penny just gets her normal grammar back, and how she turns to Rudy and raises a clenched fist? Is it possible that she might have struck Rudy in a fit of anger if she hadn't noticed she had her voice back? Is it possible she had hit Rudy before? I'm tempted to dismiss t as being really nothing, but there is something that bothers me that I can't let go of.
And that is Rudy's reaction. It's not like in Power Play where he's backing away from her. Here, he's actually cringing and raising his hands up in front of his face as if to shield it from attack. That seems to be a bit of an overreaction if he is certain Penny wouldn't actually hit him. The only thing I can think of that would result in this defensive display was if Penny did hit him at least once, perhaps in an incident that caused her to snap.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
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Post by Cutie Tabootie on Jan 8, 2015 17:14:17 GMT -5
I never noticed that before, but now that you mention it...
It does sound a little out-of-character for Penny to ever hit Rudy. While it would be normal for a lot of Nicktoon female leads to do this to the male characters, Penny isn't like Angelica or Helga- I couldn't see her ever striking him in the past. Maybe Rudy was just overreacting?
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Post by Bluedramon on Jan 8, 2015 18:36:48 GMT -5
Hmm, it is plausible that Rudy was overreacting. After all, he did the same thing in Poison Pen Letter.
If she did hit him in the past, I imagine it would have been an accident (like they were playing ball and she accidentally hit him with it). Penny does seem to be pretty strong (the girl is able to hold both Snap and Rudy's body weight, which takes a lot of muscle, which could be the result of her helping her mom around the animals), so perhaps Rudy's cringing is simply a subconscious reaction to that. If Penny can hold two kids' weight both below and above her head, just imagine if she actually decided to strike someone her age.
But I agree that she isn't that aggressive. I think it would take a lot for her to lash out at someone.
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Post by Cutie Tabootie on Jan 9, 2015 22:48:33 GMT -5
Penny does seem to be pretty strong (the girl is able to hold both Snap and Rudy's body weight, which takes a lot of muscle, which could be the result of her helping her mom around the animals), so perhaps Rudy's cringing is simply a subconscious reaction to that. If Penny can hold two kids' weight both below and above her head, just imagine if she actually decided to strike someone her age. I don't think it takes a lot of muscle to hold Snap's body weight- heck, probably even no muscle at all- since it's been shown various times that Snap is extremely light, and various characters can just pick him up like nothing. With Rudy, yes, since he IS a ten-year-old boy. He's skinny, but he's still a ten-year-old boy nonetheless, so yeah.
But another thought hit me- what if Rudy got hit by ANOTHER classmate (not Reggie, presumably, but someone else) in the past after accidentally getting them pissed off? And he was afraid Penny was going to do the same? I don't know. It really seems like just an over-reaction.
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Post by Bluedramon on Jan 19, 2015 20:49:17 GMT -5
I think I just realized something. Didn't Mr. Wilter say in episode 1 that Penny was a new student? Does this mean that Rudy and Penny just met in that episode, or at least were acquaintences for a while? Or could they have met before? To me, it sounds like they didn't know each other that well in that episode; the dialogue between the two seems to indicate this.
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Post by Cutie Tabootie on Jan 27, 2015 13:52:55 GMT -5
I think I just realized something. Didn't Mr. Wilter say in episode 1 that Penny was a new student? Does this mean that Rudy and Penny just met in that episode, or at least were acquaintences for a while? Or could they have met before? To me, it sounds like they didn't know each other that well in that episode; the dialogue between the two seems to indicate this. Yes, Penny was a new student in "Rudy's Story". Which I also thought was a good way to eliminate the "remember the new guy" trope when she first appeared in season two of Oh Yeah! Cartoons- she first appeared in "Rudy's Date" without a "real" introduction, making it look like they always knew each other (I'm guessing that Penny was added because Nickelodeon wanted a girl- after the first two shorts, they were interested in a show, but requested a few changes, one of them being Rudy needing to be aged up by two years). So at least with "Rudy's Story", it's established that Penny just moved to town.
Though when re-watching "The Skrawl", I also noticed that while both Penny and Rudy appear in the flashback at Michelle's birthday party, they don't interact (Penny's playing a board game with another kid and Rudy's sitting alone by himself). Then I was watching "Poison Pen Letter", and Michelle is having another party that same year. At first, I was thinking that maybe her party in "The Skrawl" was a year before the series, but it couldn't have been, as Penny was there. And everyone's still in the same grade in "Poison Pen Letter", so it couldn't have taken place a year later (though in "Indecent Exposure", Terry Bouffant said that the events of "The Wiggies" happened a year ago...which doesn't really make too much sense. Is this the same timeline that FOP uses? I hope not). So then I came up with something- Michelle usually has her birthday party in the Summer (assuming her birthday is in July or August, I guess). So not only did I make that headcanon, but I also made one where Penny moved to Plainville around Summer '02 (Oh Yeah! shorts and original 1999 premiere aside, I just go with whatever year it premiered), and maybe she and Michelle live down the street or something, their parents became friends after Penny moved in, so Michelle invited Penny to her party because she was new in town and was going to be attending the same school as them. So the reason why Rudy wasn't interacting with her at the party? They didn't really know each other yet. And then I worked in the party in "Poison Pen Letter" as Michelle throwing her party early because she and her family were going away for the whole summer or something.
But then I realized something...Rudy didn't have any (real world) friends until Penny came along. Poor kid.
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Post by Bluedramon on Jan 27, 2015 16:25:02 GMT -5
Yeah it didn't seem like the other kids interact with him too much. I wonder why. Maybe Rudy is a bit shy and doesn't initiate making friends? He was able to be friends with Snap because he created him and he probably knew beforehand what he was like. But others aren't as predictable.
If Rudy's Story was the first time they interacted, then it was she who initiated talking to him first. Had she not done that, they probably wouldn't have become friends, at least not until later. Just a guess.
I wonder if Rudy is Penny's only real world friend as well.
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Post by Cutie Tabootie on Jan 27, 2015 18:22:41 GMT -5
I've always had a headcanon that Rudy had been bullied a lot prior to the events of the first OY!C short, and it got to the point where he just gave up trying to make any friends. Michelle seems to be on good terms with him (even if he did say she was "a huge snob" in "Poison Pen Letter"), but she's not in his class so we don't see them interact outside of "The Skrawl" and "Poison Pen Letter" (I'm assuming that they were in the same class at one point, hence why). And then the other students (Reggie aside) never interact with him too much over the course of the series (but it doesn't help that only a few of them even had solo speaking lines. Or names).
According to "Family Von Snap", Rudy had first created Snap when he was six. Maybe before he was erased into ChalkZone, Snap was Rudy's imaginary friend. Maybe be always imagined Snap to be the way he was because he was really lonely and actually did want a friend.
It's pretty lucky that Penny was the one who talked to Rudy first. I don't think Rudy would've done it. While the beginning of "Rudy's Story" heavily suggests that he has a crush on her, he'd probably be too shy to try and talk to her first. And maybe that's why he trusted her so much to bring her into ChalkZone in "Rudy's Date", as she was (probably) the first kid in the real world to be really nice to him.
And Rudy may or may not be Penny's only real world friend. We never see Penny interact with any other students, but she may off-screen (as there are a number of episodes where Rudy appears but Penny doesn't). She appears at both of Michelle's parties (despite not being in the same class), so I'm guessing that they're on pretty good terms. Penny had also just moved into town, so she probably just didn't really know anyone yet.
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Post by Bluedramon on Jan 27, 2015 20:21:13 GMT -5
Hmm yeah it does make sense. I never really thought of Rudy being bullied all that much, but it wouldn't be too much of a stretch. Reggie certainly doesn't do anything to disprove this. And in Poison Pen Letter, Rudy does act really fearful when he's sneaking past Reggie, which seems to further add to the whole "he was bullied" thing.
Yeah I don't think Rudy would have spoken to Penny first, at least not at that time. If he was bullied, he might have thought that she would have just made fun of him too. He did seem pretty surprised when she complimented on his comic. And the way he acted right after, I wonder if he had anyone say something good about him and his work before outside of his parents (and Snap).
This could make for a good story. I might consider writing something revolving around their early interactions.
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Post by Cutie Tabootie on Jan 28, 2015 0:33:12 GMT -5
This could make for a good story. I might consider writing something revolving around their early interactions. That sounds awesome! |
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Post by Bluedramon on Jan 29, 2015 22:20:26 GMT -5
Any suggestions?
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